As one would expect, it’s painful:
The premiere episode of “Game On” features Kendall Jones and her best friend Taylor Altom as they slip away from college for a weekend to go gator hunting in Lake Charles, LA with Louisiana native and farmer/rancher Charles Schultz.
When I was done I looked at the time and was like “Holy, that was 11 minutes? It felt like 4 hours.” You likely forgot who Kendall is, so here’s a refresher complete with pics.
I’m not a big fan of Kendall’s or her hunts. I realize they were perfectly legal, I just don’t see the point of shooting rhinos, lions, tigers, zebras, elephants, hippos etc… especially when there aren’t exactly millions of elephants for instance. Someone explain to me how killing that elephant helped save elephants as whole. I honestly don’t know very much about hunting, so I can’t wrap my mind around that. Same with the lion… about that she wrote “Controlling the male lion population is important within large fenced areas like these”. Sure fair enough, but it couldn’t have been tranquilized and relocated? I’ve seen them do that on shows before. Again maybe I’m just ignorant to how this has to work, so it would be nice to know. If the answer is simply “It’s perfectly legal for her to shoot these, she likes shooting them and that’s all the reason she needs. Quit being such a pussy Mike.” then that’s fine too, I’ll accept that.
The best part about all this, is the only reason the even showed up on Reminton’s radar, or the internet’s radar in general is because shes: young, a girl, and a “cheerleader”. The world is so predictable now, it’s hilarious.
Thoughts?
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34 responses to “Remington Gives Huntress / Conservationist Kendall Jones Her Own Show”
your right ,,,, that was painfull
Oh my, I feel the flames a’ coming.
The goal of any conservation effort is to have a healthy, breeding population of animals that is at a sustainable level for the habitat. Africa is a complicated habitat, since people still live in direct contact with large and dangerous animals.
>Someone explain to me how killing that elephant helped save elephants as whole.
Limited resources. The amount of space in which elephants can live in the wild is a finite resource. When they travel out of the reserves, they damage the crops of folks who are subsistence farmers. One raiding elephant can take out an entire years’ crop for the dude farming with minimal resources. Ask that guy what he would do to the elephants, he’ll say kill them all.
Elephant hunting is regulated to keep populations at a more sustainable level, and no hunting is allowed on reserves. Private lands and tribal lands can cull ‘X’ number of elephants, the tags to which they sell to hunters.
The money that comes into local communities from the sale of tags, guiding services and everything that supports the hunting operations is money that would never be there if the hunting wasn’t allowed. Professional hunters employ locals in a variety of positions, from trackers to cooks. Without hunting, the elephants would have zero value to the common person. The only impact they have on regular folks is a negative impact when they strip their field clean of corn in one night. Hunting gives value to an animal that the locals would rather kill on sight.
As for lion hunting, I’ll put it in a US perspective, our area of the country has mountain lions showing up more and more. Environmentalists would say that’s a great thing, but if that same mountain lion set up a den in an environmentalist’s back yard and started popping out cubs, they’d probably want it relocated somewhere else. Because of how far and wide mountain lions range, no matter where it’s relocated it will be in someone else’s backyard.
Same thing with lions. By maintaining healthy prides on the reserves, the species is able to keep going. You ask the regular dude what he’d do to the lions, he’d say kill them. Who wants their kids to be walking to school knowing there are lions on the loose?
Culling males and females to keep the population at a healthy level is necessary, there are no predators above a lion except us. From a conservationist perspective, ideally hunters could shoot the older male lions, the ones that are beyond prime breeding age.
No matter what, if you have ‘X’ amount of land, you can only have ‘Y’ amount of animals before food and water become scarce. If a reserve gets overgrazed and the food is all gone, the grazing animals move to where there is food. Predators follow them. The reserves only work if the populations are at a sustainable level.
Additionally, money brought in by hunting is what funds the park rangers who protect the animal population from poachers. The illegal ivory trade has devastated elephant herds in areas of Africa where they don’t have the money to properly protect their herds. Heck, even where they do have the money, the poachers are finding ways to win. Poisoning salt licks and watering holes. It’s disgusting the waste, and all to put ivory into the hands of selfish folks in Asia. Hunting helps fund the battle against this.
I don’t think I’d be too far off in saying that the average person in the US who’s outraged at elephant poaching has contributed exactly zero dollars to combating it.
Summary: Limited resources (reserve land and food sources), money to local economy, gives the animals value in local eyes and funds anti-poaching efforts.
“I don’t think I’d be too far off in saying that the average person in the US who’s outraged at elephant poaching has contributed exactly zero dollars to combating it.”
What are you trying to say, bro? What, it’s not like I, as a faithful Green Party adherent haven’t posted photo after photo on my FB and Pinterest page garnering thousands of likes and shares to raise awareness about this evil that exists in the world of hunting and poaching. Why, I even remember the time I held an all-night Twitter vigil that must have had at least 200 retweets (at least what I counted before the weed kicked in)! Are you trying to say that ‘liking’, ‘sharing’, and retweeting to raise awareness is doing ‘nothing’?! Disgusting.
Lol, you are absolutely spot on on this. It’s laughable how many nature-lovers raise ‘awareness’ so everyone knows it’s a problem and yet they still do absolutely nothing about it.
hahah nice
It can be a bit more grey than you imply, but I agree with most of what you’ve written.
Few Points –
Devil is in the details. Figuring out the state of a population (i.e. is it in “balance”) isn’t as simple as sticking your finger in the air and we don’t always understand these animals as well as we think. Older people aren’t productive either, it doesn’t mean we shoot them. It’s easy to say that older animals aren’t breeding and hence are now useless, but they may serve roles we don’t understand.
For example, older male African elephants have been show to control younger orphaned males from essentially going on hormone-fueled killing sprees. I don’t know if this applies for lions (it may not) and I’m not projecting human attributes onto them for sentimental reasons – the point is that you can’t just treat them like breeding machines. They do have social structures and learned behaviours that we often understand very poorly so just saying “Well he can’t create any more offspring, he’s useless” is simplistic and quite possibly false.
Very little of the money from these safaris often makes it back to to the people on ground. Majority goes to the safari organizer or into corrupt governments. I’m not saying “ban hunting” as the solution – the point is that again it’s not as cut and dry as “well I paid $3k for a license to hunt this elephant, and $2k of that money will go to save other ones!”. That may be the case, or it may not depending on how well-run the operation is. It’s like when you donate to a non-profit in the US. It makes people feel-good; but how effective is your chosen non-profit? Everyone has overhead for sure, but it should matter how efficient you are and hunters have an ethical obligation to support the right ones.
Which is really the crux of it – how well run is the operation? How efficiently is it turning those hunting dollars into dollars on the ground that get ordinary people economically motivated to support conservation, report poachers, etc.. There are success stories for sure – Namibia seems to be doing pretty well at the conservation hunting game – but you also have to balance consumptive hunting against nonconsumptive wildlife viewing, etc.
IMO, the real key for game reserves is using them to protect much larger areas than wildlife viewing alone can justify. Think backcountry areas that are not accessible to the mass tourists riding around on double decker buses. Serious hunters have the time and money to go into deeper areas to get their prize game. This gives those communities that perhaps might not get tourists an incentive to conserve wildlife.
Interesting, thanks Brian!
Interesting, thanks a lot for taking the time Zach.
Adding a bit to Zach’s comments:
Don’t know about lions specifically, but iirc animal relocation usually fails. It’s incredibly stressful and rather than reestablishing itself, ad animal will often try to return home.
With elephants trophy hunters are used to remove problem bulls, paying to kill an animal that has to be killed anyway.
There are issue regarding the implementation, but the trophy hunting industry in Africa brings in money (http://www.africanwildlifeconservationfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Economic-and-conservation-significance.pdf), which helps provide an incentive to maintain conservation efforts (http://nytimes.com/2013/03/18/opinion/saving-lions-by-killing-them.html). Of particular note is the boom in the white rhino population in South Africa (http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/).
Your blog is usually spot on and it’s always the first thing I open every morning in my email. That said, you missed the mark this time. Sorry Mike, you earned this one:
Awe, did the big bad hunter offend your delicate senses? I know what will make it all better! Go buy a dress. Maybe something in earth tones or a floral pattern to match the trees you hug later…….
That is all. Keep up the good work bro.
LOL you got me Jeff. Glad you’re still a fan of the blog though. I’m heading to Forever 21 to pick out a sun dress after I try out this new Lavender bath scrub, I hear it’s to die for.
That show is horrible. As to the conservation efforts, it’s very simple Mike. The money that people pay to hunt these animals eliminates the “tragedy of the commons” problem that arises with public resources. Many of the folks who live in these countries barely eek out a living, and often kill these wild animals because (a) they kill people (hippos, lions, hyenas, elephants are all fairly dangerous to your health) (b) they need to eat meat, or (c) they need to make money to live (sell ivory tusks for $250). Instead, rich white people pay a lot of money to hunt these animals and create entire industries that make a lot of people live. Not only that, but those incentives also encourage people to protect the animals that used to just be poached. Many private game reserves pop up. I suspect that most of the animals that Kendall has hunted are on private high fenced game reserves. It’s not really hunting, but who am I to judge. Also, Africa is fucking huge. Just because elephants may be endangered in one country does not mean that they are in others.
I’m a hunter. I have no love for trophy hunting, and I do not see the point of killing an animal if I do not plan to eat it, but I will defend it to the death. The animals killed on these hunts never go to waste. The meat is given to the locals, while the hunter gets to take home the hide/skull/photos. By legalizing the hunting of these endangered animals, the landowners are very motivated to get these animals reproducing on their lands. When a rhino hunt can fetch $350,000, you are going to make sure that you get as many of those as humanly possible, and you will protect your investment. Here are some basic overviews:
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/
http://www.scienceinafrica.com/old/index.php?q=2006/december/gamereserves.htm
Thanks Jim, interesting. I’ll check out those links.
I never understood game hunting. Hunting for food is one thing, but “hunting” for wild and oh-my-goodness-da-dangerous-ones with technological overmatch is just dumb. You blasted a lion/tiger/bear from secure tree stand/vehicle, your hunting prowess must be notched at 11! What next, drone kamikazes with tannerite?
Most people I know eat what they hunt. Kendall ended up giving the meat of the animals she shot back to the locals.
What you don’t understand is that if humans don’t engage in a little selective population control, then the population growth of certain animals will endanger others or themselves. Either they’ll hunt out the prey and thin down those numbers so much that they’ll end up starving themselves in a generation or they will suffer from disease. We’ve faced that a lot in the west where urban heart-bleeders regulate hunting so much because they can’t understand having to kill an innocent animal they’ve never seen in their sheltered urban life. Those of us that live closer to nature, however, end up having to deal with more deaths when deer decide to race cars for the right-of-way, diseases that threaten the entire state’s population, and larger numbers of bears deciding that trashcan or your kitchen smell pretty good.
Ok. Go hunt a Kodiak bear with a compound bow. Go hunt a lion (that can climb trees) or a panther (that routinely climbs trees) or any bear(that can climb trees) but a grizzly (that can’t climb trees) from a tree stand. Go hunt a lion with a revolver. Go hunt a Grizzly bear with a recurve bow. I can show you pictures of hunters who have done this. This is not technological overmatch. This is a person pitting their skill and their abilities against the skill and speed and abilities of an animal that would rip them to pieces and eat them under normal circumstances. You want a thrill comparable to driving a Top Fuel dragster? Miss your first shot against a full grown lion and watch him come running at you. Hope you don’t miss the second, because your guides probably will be able to shoot the lion but it won’r realize it is dead until it has your head in its jaws.
grizzly bears can climb trees just fine.
Even better.
Leonard- You’re ignoring the conservation aspect. To protect the species, populations have to be kept at a sustainable level for the amount of habitat that is available. Hunting manages the population as well as funds other conservation efforts.
Lions are stalked on foot, tigers aren’t legally hunted any longer (interesting, since they basically wait until the tigers over-hunt the reserve and have to move out to find food and start eating people, then they cull the ‘evil’ man-eater) and bears are hunted by boat, by foot, with dogs and from stands. Even with a technological overmatch (firearm), it’s not safe and easy to hunt another apex predator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNgwZgoKFc (Love the little girl scream in that one. I’d probably do it too.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0kzdu_wTM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUG8UPsgE3U#t=70
Lions, tigers and bears, oh my!
Fucking balls of steel all around in those videos. The bow hunter just stood up and purposefully shot in front of the bear to scare it. Balls of steel. That grizzly was shot out of a cannon.
Zach nailed it out of the park.
Most of the conservation work done for big African game is done on private ranches and preserves, which are funded through tophy hunting to keep the population manageable.
It really is a win/win situation, unless you’re a mindless tree-hugger. Note I said mindless, as an Eagle Scout and hunter, I proudly claim the title of tree hugger.
i will use your own words first “It’s perfectly legal for her to shoot these, she likes shooting them and that’s all the reason she needs. Quit being such a pussy Mike.”
ok. now on to my point. these trips cost a lot of money. it will cost you 30k to shoot an elephant and 50-100k for a lion depending on circumstances. on a side note. do you have any idea how long a elephant the size of the one pictured would feed villagers in those areas? months upon months. and before you say ewe, who eats elephant. i can answer that, africans. the villagers who live a primitive lifestyle use every part of the animal harvested(think whale harvest by the eskimos). not a single part goes to waste.
so instead of donating 30k to a charity that feeds african kids and sitting on your ass. these hunters make a trip out of it. experience something that only few get to experience and have the amazing pictures for their walls. not too mention the satisfaction you feel when the villagers receive the food and the smiles it brings to the kids faces. they often make a large celebration of a harvest and the village comes together to honor the hunters for providing such an abundance of food.
i frequent this site daily and have supported by purchasing multiple shirts, flags, etc. this post was disappointing.
or are you just trolling us? like you said yesterday, you hate it when people don’t get butt hurt.
Thanks for your support, and no I’m not trolling you guys on this one. I don’t hunt, so her justification of it didn’t seem like it made much sense to me. From reading these comments though I have a better understanding now. I never was against hunting, it’s just not for me. That is good to hear that they use so much of the animals.. that’s what I like to hear.
Mike, if you decide to hunt I hear Josephine and Douglas County is not the place to hunt unless it’s humans; like 7+ deaths in the past few years due to “hunting accidents.” Though, I do suspect the latest one in Myrtle Crack was because she told her father about her times with Daquan, Shaquan, and Taquan from the Ducks ball team. I guess he was mad that after they ran a train on her, she then did their homework.
them thighs, though…..
Erika is that you?
That was it? Way to lead off your first show, shooting gators that’ve already been hooked. She’s from Texas, go after some hogs. And find a writer – how many times did she ask if the gator just jumps up and grabs the bait? Goodness gracious!
And quit being a pussy, Mike. Or were you wearing your Trollin’ USA shirt?
Yo! What the fuck is wrong with this chick’s teeth? I could use that jagged maw to pop open my bottles of Miller. Da Fuq?
Her face is like a smashed crab.
oh, I dunno. looks like Remington is just trying to cash in on her rather fleeting notoriety. not the best business model but I hope it works out for them.
I pretty much agree with everyone else.
Conservation is good. The linked show is bad and Kendall Jones is weird looking.
Yeah man. If she cut her hair short she’d look just like this kid who used to ride my bus called Fat Jimmy. Kind of crossed eyed and generally FUBAR.
Just knew by looking at him that shit wasn’t going to go right for that kid the rest of his life. Poor bastard.
for a cheerleader she seems to have taken too much Noassatall.
jacked up grill to boot, 3/10, would bang Cory right in his ole sandbox before her.
“I want to shoot it right in the face.”
My understanding is that the reason hunting some helps preserve the rest is that relevant government collects the money from the tags and uses it for conservation efforts.
I agree with you, though. I don’t get the point of hunting already threatened species. I’m not against it; I don’t have all the facts about the matter, like whether or not it actually does help them or if the governments that are collecting the fees actually do use the money for conservation, or whether they’re culling the pack/herd of the weakest members.
I’m not a hunter yet, though I am hunter safety certified, and my dad and I are planning a prairie dog hunt sometime. There, at least you’re directly helping by keeping the over abundant population down.