Call me a holster purist if you will, but this is just insane:
It’s actually called the “Flashbang” (Clever, but I like my name better) and is available for the Kel Tec LCP, LCR S&W Bodyguard J frame,Sig P238. I’m not posting the link where you can buy it from because I feel like I would be contributing to a female Darwin award.
Selling products this dangerous should be illegal.
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A good way to shoot up breast cancer.
O.M.G….! They ALL deserve a Darwin award! I like how they state in the beginning they brag how she’s never shot before. And then do something like this with her! And the two numb nuts with the video camera and the timer NOT behind the line of fire. WOW. Geniuses! I just got a bodyguard 380, I can tell you where I won’t be carrying it!
Speaking for the holster itself I don’t see it being any worse then most deep concealment holsters. The issue is the training, quick drawing from nearly any deep concealment holster is a stupid idea that is asking for trouble. Any one who do such a thing is just as likely to shoot themselves with a belly band or a Smartcarry type groin holster.
agreed, this was covered on another forum a week or so ago and there were a lot of folks, myself included, that came to the same conclusion…training, training training..notice her trigger finger discipline..pretty decent…
True, I don’t like those deep concealment holsters either such as smartcarry etc… Too many ways to mess up on the draw and shoot yourself accidentally. Especially when stress is involved, I love to see someone in an actual “situation” with one of these… not some zero stress range scenario.
I agree with Seth on the concept of the holster – I can’t see it being any worse than the Smartcarry thunderwear.
As I said to Jodie below, one big issue I have with this is the fact its always pointing to the left, and you’re sweeping everyone to the left of you on the draw. That’s a bad idea if you ask me.
So I take it you don’t like horizontal shoulder rigs either?
Correct. I had that argument with Jodie below. I just think it unnecessarily increase the chances of collateral damage on the draw. It’s not like we (ever?) hear about people getting shot accidentally from a CCW holder messing up on the draw, it just makes me uncomfortable to violate any of the 4 Col. Jeff Cooper rules, especially when in my opinion there are better safer options available. To each their own though.
Responded quite smarmily to another post before I saw this. My apologies. I’m taking my ultra crappy day out on you and you don’t deserve it in the slightest. Remove my sarcasm and I have good points. Again, forgive me for being a prick.
LOL no worries Andy, nothing wrong with a bit of argument. I had a terrible day earlier too, and probably came across to harsh to Jodie below. I’ve got some steaks ready to go on the grill, and some cold beer in the fridge so I’m hoping in about 10 minutes that will be the segue to a better weekend. Hope you have a good one too!
Beyond the holster itself; the Kel-Tec seemed to have some reliability issues.
“Selling products this dangerous should be illegal.”
I’m glad you’re out there advocating we don’t have dangerous things.
This holster gives another option in the market. The trigger and trigger guard are completely shielded by kydex . As long as the user has proper shooting fundamentals it is not any more dangerous than any other IWB holster carried in appendix carry or depending on the person’s position side carry. In fact an accidental discharge to the pelvic cradle in much more dangerous than a round traveling through the breast tissue.
We had an officer with a duty holster kill himself practicing his draw(standing), and accidentally shooting himself in the hip. The bullet traveled along the pelvis from right to left and then back up through his chest and out of his neck. Point being it’s not the holster, it’s the user.
If you keep your finger off of the trigger until your weapon is on target the gun will NOT fire (assuming the gun is not defective, which is ultra rare)
riiiiiight….
I’m half decent with kydex Jodie, maybe I should create a “sweatband” holster for you that you can wear around your head with the gun facing your temple… cause you know as long as the proper fundamentals are followed its no more dangerous than any of the other options. Cause as long as you keep your finger off the trigger on the draw you’ll be fine right?
Another reason the appendix carry is a much better idea than this bra holster, or my stupid idea above, is that your muzzle direction is downward at all times, you’re not sweeping everyone to your left hand side while carrying, and while drawing.
“Selling products this dangerous should be illegal.”
Your statement infers that a holster that holds a firearm in a “potentially” unsafe way should be illegal. I simply disagree with your statement, and believe that individuals should have the right to purchase whatever they would like, and be personally responsible for it.
As for appendix carry the gun is only pointing down when standing, while sitting(many people spend their day like this) the gun sweeps your thigh, groin, femoral artery(obviously depending on gun etc.).
As far as sweeping everyone to the left, an officer’s M4 rides in his trunk (obviously policy dictates the condition of the weapon, but in our county condition 1 is ok)(loaded, one in the pipe, safety on) and unless his trunk monkey gets a hold of it doesn’t shoot anyone. So are you against shoulder holster (horizontal carry) too?
I don’t like the idea of shoulder holsters for the same reasons, not to mention the fact when your arm is across your body you have virtually no strength if someone were close enough to push your arm against your body to try and stop you from drawing.
I don’t have as much of a problem with the CARRY aspect, as I do with the fact it might need to be drawn and used from such an unsafe location for everyone else around the person. You mentioned the femoral artery at risk when sitting down for appendix carry… again that’s an issue the person carrying is only affected by if things go sour, so I have no problem with it.
I agree with you that people have the RIGHT to purchase whatever they want, but I really don’t want to be across the street (etc..) from some scared man with a shoulder holster, or woman with either the bra or shoulder holster when a gang of thugs roll up on him/her and the person needs to draw and I take a bullet while minding my own business. I don’t live in a fantasy world where everyone practices shooting and drawing 40 hours per week, and will respond under stress flawlessly like the actors we are used to seeing in movies. I don’t know how you can argue that inventions like this bra holster aren’t inherently more dangerous to bystanders when the gun is being drawn.
Your “m4 in the trunk” argument doesn’t apply here because that’s not a holster on someone’s body.
I’ve been around guns, shooting guns and reading any gun rag I could get my hands on for the past 33 years. This is the first time I’ve heard of someone voicing an issue about horizontal shoulder rigs. The fact that if the attacker is too close he can stop the draw, yes. I’ve read that. About shooting someone else accidentally and sweeping innocents? Never.
Regardless of your opinion, horizontal shoulder rigs still sell and have been for a few decades. Cross draw holsters sell. They’ve been around for a couple of centuries.
“but I really don’t want to be across the street (etc..) from some scared man with a shoulder holster, or woman with either the bra or shoulder holster when a gang of thugs roll up on him/her and the person needs to draw and I take a bullet while minding my own business.”
Are you aware of how silly that sounds?
So what are the chances that someone with a rig that you don’t like is going to be completely and utterly inept at defending themselves? Their trigger discipline so horrible that a round is probably going to go your way (out of all the degrees possible) instead of the bad guy. Or perhaps you can show me the dearth of police reports about how someone with a horizontal shoulder rig accidentally shot someone else while drawing their gun in order to bring it to bear upon their attacker?
I’ll make it easier for you. You can go back to 1984 when Galco introduced the Miami Classic. One of their best sellers. That’s 27 years. Must be tons of incidents in that span of time. I’m surprised Galco wasn’t sued for all the deaths their shoulder rig caused.
I agree with most of what you’re saying. The reality is that the reason the should rig is so popular is because it looks cool and was made popular by movies, not because it’s the best option for carrying a gun. As we know from the statistics there are so few self defense shootings in the United States every day, that my concerns are definitely trivial, but As I mentioned to one of the people above, I’m just not crazy about the Col. Jeff Cooper 4 rules violation the shoulder holster carries with it.
I think the main problem with this holster&user combo is that the gun is placed where every male would like to start “disarm” the girl:D
Otherwise I agree that the safety of this type of holster depends _only_ on training.
It’s not clear to me how the holster works; she needs to do it again without the shirt obstructing the view.
hahah well played sir.
Truly, classy. I’m not sure how that iwb holster works, he needs to do it again without the pants obstructing the view.
Yeah, but she is not reholstering with one hand. I would be two hands over all that.
Aside from safety issues, does anyone else feel this holster encourages a poor shooting stance?
EDIT: I meant holster safety, for clarity.